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This drive is used for show content, so check this out. brief description. 160gb drive installed. partitioned in xp. one partition, 40 gig done in ntfs. the rest, fat 32. leftover, was a 15gig partition. xp sees it all. go into win 98. 98 doesnt see the ntfs partiton. understandable. but it doesnt see the 15 gig partition either. ok. norton disk doctor in 98 says i can fix that. it does. i put some folder on it. go back to xp, it sees the 15 gig, but not the folder. i go whaaa? i put some folders on it in xp. go back to 98. it doesnt see the xp folders. i say frack it, and fill the drive for "normal operation". there now 11 gig of 98 stuff on the drive. i go back to xp. xp still doesnt see the 98 folders. so i say frack it, and fill the drive for "normal operation". go back to 98. 98 still doesnt see the xp folders, but sees ALL the 98 folders. so now, i have 22 gigs worth of stuff on a 15 gig drive with NO compression. I've created a parallel universe drive. figure THAT one out geeks. LOL

Now the arguing begins. lol

ZoRoK525: ah dont let any windows programs create or handle partions because they will fuck it up meaning store its own information in each operting system big problems can happen cuase of it
ZoRoK525: eg one day ya might put something on it from xp and then jump in 98 and put something else on it and over lap files :-/
venison88: no, i just put 11 gig of stuff on it in both os's, and they're fine
venison88: LOL!! venison88: what a discovery i made. a hard drive cheat!
TbrnLive: I'm calling the coastguard!
ZoRoK525: nah its not a cheat its miss inforation in both opeating systems and sooner or later you gonna over write files on that certain partion sooner or later :-P
venison88: norton disk doctor in 98 did something weird to that partition, so 98 could see it.
venison88: but it made it virtual or something, or caused some kind of parallel universe drive. lol
ZoRoK525: load up partition magic and use that program to manage your partitions
ZoRoK525: it will tell ya what it is and i think cuase winddows98 see it has a standerd partion and xp sees it like a dynmaic hard drive and thats a bad thing if both operting systems can see each others files in the same partition
venison88: not now, i'm gonna leave it like this. this can create possibilities. lol
ZoRoK525: the only possibilities its gonna create is problems youll see :-P
ZoRoK525: you really should let windowsxp do up partiton or any other windows programs entrust in partition magic it wont do ya wrong ;-)
ZoRoK525: shouldnt*
venison88: yeah well, it worked for the 80 gig drive
ZoRoK525: telling ya if you copy files from 98 and xp into that certain partion youll notice other files in that partition will start to disappear :-P
venison88: bet it wont. they havent so far
ZoRoK525: well start putting files on it in both operting systems youll find out ;-)
venison88: i DID. 11 gigs worth from both os's
venison88: and they're all still there
venison88: basically, i now have about 22gig of stuff on a 15 gig drive. ;-)
ZoRoK525: well just wait until they hit each other boundrys and start getting file curroptions and i belive that will result from xp over wrting files 98 put on it if that order is correct
ZoRoK525: are you using disk compression?
venison88: theorize all ya want. this is actuallity. they're ALL working. and NO compression.
ZoRoK525: its not thoery its fact you just did something to that partion after xp set it up, windows98 doesnt understand things xp does so somewhere something is wrong if both operting systems cant see each other fat32 files trust me its a problem that will become a bigger prblem later on :-P
ZoRoK525: thats why i say run partion magic and see what the partition is listed as
venison88: but like i said, i had 98 REPAIR that partition, and formatted it.
ZoRoK525: okay thats problem number 1 ya shouldnt let windows 98 repair anything you should us partition magic now im wondering if you have a overlapped partition unless you just have a ntfs/fat32 partion side by side?
venison88: nope
ZoRoK525: okay then there is a problem lol
ZoRoK525: if you had fat32/ntfs partion on the same drive windows xp should see both partitons and files, but 98 wont see the ntfs partiton or other files
venison88: but this 15 gig partition was ALWAYS fat32
ZoRoK525: and you saying you have 22 gigs on a 15 gig partiton? cuase the only way to do that is through windows xp file compression and im not even sure if it can compress that much data and if its compressed by windowsxp standerd then 98 wont see the files and xp wont see files placed there by other operting systems
venison88: yes, theres 22 gig worth of stuff on that drive, and NO compession at all
ZoRoK525: thats why i say run partition magic, just to see what the partions are listed as it will display automatically all partitons and windows compression format too has ssoon has ya start the prog
venison88: right now, i dont care. both os's see the stuff that was put on that drive in that os. and runs it just fine in THAT os. has a ton of potential. :-)
ZoRoK525: im telling ya dude theres a problem if both operting systems cant see files placed by either operating system on the same fat32 partiton and if thats the case then sooner or later files are gonna get over written cuase the os's dont know about the other files on that partition so be carefull
venison88: oh, and the hd swap boxes work great. this machine is now versitility city. :-)
venison88: thats why all those files on the "overflow drive" are backed up anyway. so no matter what happens, i wont loose data. but if it keeps on working like this with no flaws, i've created a new idea, and stumped the shit out of you. LOL
ZoRoK525: not really its a problem between windows versions but if you dont care about over writing other os'ses saved files on that partition then have fun :-P
venison88: but they're NOT being overwritten. thats what i'm trying to tell you. ;-)
ZoRoK525: and im telling you the way you just describe it will eventually happen unless there is two sperate partions
venison88: all the data written by the 2 os's, seem to be on different "levels". what those levels are, who can truely tell?
ZoRoK525: you can tell by running partiton magic lol
ZoRoK525: just starting the problem will display partiton information regardless of operting system limitations
ZoRoK525: problem = program lol
ZoRoK525: if the partition is half ntfs and half fat32 then windowsxp should see 98 files and its own files, and 98 wont be able to see windowsxp placed files...

if the partiton is a full fat32 then xp and 98 should see each others files place on that same partiton space unless you did something or xp did something automatically to create auto compression of its files it saves if that happens then 98 wont be able to see xp files and xp wouldnt be able to see 98 files due to the auto compression of a dynmaic disk array i dont know if xp does that automatically or not,

if by some weird chance xp & 98 are accessing serpate partions then you shouldnt be able to see each other files unless 98 is only displaying like 1 partition instead of the 2 partitions that might be there and xp access the second partion and doesnt show the first partiton bucause xp wasnt told to look for another partiton. eg hard drive split into two fat32 partitons.

and you and i can find out whats going just by starting partiton magic it will list all partions on all drives ;-)
venison88: its one partition, and NO compression. ;-)
ZoRoK525: then run partiton magic so you can find out whats going on lol
venison88: nope
venison88: stay confused. lol
ZoRoK525: you like not knowing whats going on lol im not confused those are the paths of the operting ystem and unless there is some uknown partiton bug in either 98 or xp but you seemed not want to know haha but in any case partion magic can give you all information about partitons
venison88: its working, thats all i care about.
ZoRoK525: send me a screen shot of partiton magic partiton display information and i'll tell you whats going on haha
venison88: do not try your blasphemous wizard ways on me, YOU will never know then. LOL
ZoRoK525: well if i had your comp here i would be ablet to tell ya whats going on haha
venison88: yeah right. lol
ZoRoK525: o yea partiton drive letters are inrelavant in other operting systems cuase xp/98/2k assign partions the next drive letter thats avaible in indavidual operating systems so you might think you are accessing the same partion but you might be accessing two diffrent partions i dont know how many partions ya got running unless you run partiton magic :-P
venison88: i KNOW about the drive letter changes, and compensated for them. this is the only SMALL partition on here.
ZoRoK525: partion tools in 98 dont see things xp does, and xp i belive does alot of things automatically one of the biggest thing i hate about xp windows 2000 doesnt do things automatically but i dont trust partiton tool actions or information in either oeprating system
ZoRoK525: they gimped the windowsxp/2k partiton tools there incapible of making fat32 partitons bigger then 32 gigs ;-/
ZoRoK525: microsoft joke trying to force everyone to goto ntfs
ZoRoK525: and 98 is capible of making 64gig fat32 partions i find that funny
venison88: oh damn, should hae done it in 98 then. i got 3 32 gig partitions in fat 32. thats why i had the 15 left over. lol
ZoRoK525: okay so xp made the partitons? then 98 modified one of them and that sounds like trouble lol
ZoRoK525: anyway partion magic can undo/redo the options for you that program has no limitations with fat32 file system its capabilites are 2 terabyte fat32 partions
ZoRoK525: let me word that better > partion magic is able to create a single fat32 partiton up to 2 terabyte big
ZoRoK525: and really i wouldnt be surpised if xp did something without telling you they seem to want to make older operating systems incapble of crossing each other paths
ZoRoK525: that might be the cuase to why 98 couldnt see it to begin with
ZoRoK525: ya know whats fucked up thou xp and 2k are capabile of running in fat32 partiton but they wont create partions for you in the installer :-/ and xp just flat out refuses to install into a fat 32 partion yet, iit will upgrade windows98 on a fat 32 partion and not convert it
Yet for all his logic and techno babble, its STILL working. lmao. 11-5-2k6